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My biggest critique is unfortunately how long it takes to get a match started. I would love to see some sort of sign up beforehand implemented with preferred roles and attendance (e.g. game 1, game 2). It took 15 minutes to get started today, and it's always a little odd getting everyone together and into a role they enjoy. I'm not saying we didn't get there, but it's something that could be drastically reduced.

I feel that if we can sign up for MCL, we can sign up in advance for LoL as well.

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14 hours ago, MadCast: doublestufforeo said:

My biggest critique is unfortunately how long it takes to get a match started. I would love to see some sort of sign up beforehand implemented with preferred roles and attendance (e.g. game 1, game 2). It took 15 minutes to get started today, and it's always a little odd getting everyone together and into a role they enjoy. I'm not saying we didn't get there, but it's something that could be drastically reduced.

I feel that if we can sign up for MCL, we can sign up in advance for LoL as well.

I don't think that is an out of line critique. I will see what we can do. 

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I know that usually this thread is left for critiques from what I have seen but I just wanted to say I thought the last topic was fantastic and we had some really competitive games last night but very little to no negativity DURING the game. At least on the teams that I was on. It is super refreshing to be that competitive and have everyone be cool headed.

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2 minutes ago, 3footmonkey said:

I know that usually this thread is left for critiques from what I have seen but I just wanted to say I thought the last topic was fantastic and we had some really competitive games last night but very little to no negativity DURING the game. At least on the teams that I was on. It is super refreshing to be that competitive and have everyone be cool headed.

I'm not sure what you are complaining about here. Please make your feedback more critical. 

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17 hours ago, MadCast: doublestufforeo said:

My biggest critique is unfortunately how long it takes to get a match started. I would love to see some sort of sign up beforehand implemented with preferred roles and attendance (e.g. game 1, game 2). It took 15 minutes to get started today, and it's always a little odd getting everyone together and into a role they enjoy. I'm not saying we didn't get there, but it's something that could be drastically reduced.

I feel that if we can sign up for MCL, we can sign up in advance for LoL as well.

Can't say I agree with a sign up. League of Learning is something I want to attend to just chill and play if I can make it that week. MCL is definitely something I am trying harder in, so a signup is more necessary since it is a long-term and more serious commitment. I wouldn't want to punish a player for arriving early to the event because they forgot to sign up and I don't think you can expect consistency when signing up for a weekly event (at least from me because there is no way I'd remember). I think a sign up sheet would be good if we were getting like 40+ people.

I think the event usually ends at around ~11:15 anyways, which is probably largely due to our discussions being at least 15 minutes after each game... or it used to be since we deviated from the traditional lane by lane into late game rundown.

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1 hour ago, MadCast: kyro said:

Can't say I agree with a sign up. League of Learning is something I want to attend to just chill and play if I can make it that week. MCL is definitely something I am trying harder in, so a signup is more necessary since it is a long-term and more serious commitment. I wouldn't want to punish a player for arriving early to the event because they forgot to sign up and I don't think you can expect consistency when signing up for a weekly event (at least from me because there is no way I'd remember). I think a sign up sheet would be good if we were getting like 40+ people.

I think the event usually ends at around ~11:15 anyways, which is probably largely due to our discussions being at least 15 minutes after each game... or it used to be since we deviated from the traditional lane by lane into late game rundown.

It doesn't necessarily have to be a sign up though. We were sitting in that lobby for 30+ minutes before the games started. While yes it was fun to get some ARAMS in beforehand. Maybe we can just start assigning things there and filling roles and secondaries as they come in beforehand so that we can do a quick pow-wow and then continuing on into the matches.

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Personally I get home typically within 5 minutes of 6 PM PST. I have missed games due to traffic on the commute back, because I get pulled into a late meeting, or a meeting goes long. I could not reliably sign up for LoL if you expect everyone to be on 15 minutes before.

As I've said before, starting 30 minutes later is much more doable for me, but people want to end before 11 PM EST.

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On 12/7/2018 at 4:28 PM, MadCast: kyro said:

Can't say I agree with a sign up. League of Learning is something I want to attend to just chill and play if I can make it that week. MCL is definitely something I am trying harder in, so a signup is more necessary since it is a long-term and more serious commitment. I wouldn't want to punish a player for arriving early to the event because they forgot to sign up and I don't think you can expect consistency when signing up for a weekly event (at least from me because there is no way I'd remember). I think a sign up sheet would be good if we were getting like 40+ people.

I think the event usually ends at around ~11:15 anyways, which is probably largely due to our discussions being at least 15 minutes after each game... or it used to be since we deviated from the traditional lane by lane into late game rundown.

I tend to agree with Kyro and  I love the discussions after the games and would hate to see those trimmed down because that is loads of fun for me analyzing what our mistakes or strengths were.

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I'm going to repeat my critique from the town hall.  This event in particular should absolutely be streamed.  If you find yourself as the 11th man and just spectating when you have the ability to stream, then you should fire that stream up fellas and gals.  The stream will give an outside look and critiques in real time if you want to go back and watch your VOD, especially after your lane match tells you what they think you were doing wrong, would be  a lot easier to see it first hand.

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26 minutes ago, MadCast: bigdommer said:

I'm going to repeat my critique from the town hall.  This event in particular should absolutely be streamed.  If you find yourself as the 11th man and just spectating when you have the ability to stream, then you should fire that stream up fellas and gals.  The stream will give an outside look and critiques in real time if you want to go back and watch your VOD, especially after your lane match tells you what they think you were doing wrong, would be  a lot easier to see it first hand.

I think this is a great idea. It is a different story to hear feedback and then watch it again than to just hear it and forget about it the next day.

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20 hours ago, MadCast: bigdommer said:

I'm going to repeat my critique from the town hall.  This event in particular should absolutely be streamed.  If you find yourself as the 11th man and just spectating when you have the ability to stream, then you should fire that stream up fellas and gals.  The stream will give an outside look and critiques in real time if you want to go back and watch your VOD, especially after your lane match tells you what they think you were doing wrong, would be  a lot easier to see it first hand.

I think this is a fantastic idea. That way I can watch the game the next day while I am at work as well. While I am being totally productive. Yeah. . . productive. >.>

 

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My biggest critique tonight, again, how long the games take to start. The first match and the second both took ~15 minutes to fire up. People tend to show up at the event exactly when it's prescribed to start, and it just kind of makes us wait until last minute to get a count.

Maybe implementing some sort of system where you change your nickname in Discord prior to what your rank and roles are might be beneficial?

Just trying to streamline this, as 30 minutes of sitting around doing nothing doesn't really make for a fun night.


Past that we did have wonderful after game conversations, and addressed issues in a professional manner. My request to the MadCast community though is give some respect to @MadCast: Support Welfare for running the event, and give him the time to speak his peace instead of having a bunch of side bar conversations.

It would help immensely if we all just buckled down for 5 minutes, stopped talking over each other, and got the ball rolling.

Doublestuff "just my two cents" Oreo

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Maybe having a live Google Doc spreadsheet of everyone's IGN's, current Rank, and preferred roles? Everyone can go in and edit as needed if their rank changes or they decide they want to switch up their roles prior to the event, and that way they can already be sorted by Low Elo and High Elo. Then when people join into the call and start getting into a lobby, whoever is organizing it can look at the document at a glance and be able to organize better without having everyone having to type in lobby chat or pipe up in Discord. Just a thought!

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My one gripe is that we focus a ton on communication in LoL and a lot of that when playing with a team of 5 people you know is having voice comms. Yes. The ping system exists and it's solid for SoloQ, but when you listen to pros comms, there is a ton of voice + pings.

I don't think you should be allowed into League of Learning without a mic. I'll continue to play with people that don't have a mic and I'm not going to quit the event or anything, but I think it's a major disadvantage to a team when you have 4 mics vs 5 mics in an event that's focus is on communication and working together to tackle various topics of the day.

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Also, fully agree with @MadCast: bigdommer. Would love to have this event streamed, but if we do that, to @MadCast: doublestufforeo's point, you should be online, done patching, and ready to go 5 mins before 9:00 ET.

If we're streaming, then we should be discussing the 1st game while the 2nd game is being setup. If you need to reference the stats, you can pull them up online in Match History while you get into lobby for game two.

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I think it might be helpful to have whoever is hosting/coaching the event NOT play the matches. I realize that means finding another person, but there's only so much you can see while trying to still play with your team. Spectating would et the coach watch both teams and give pretty consistent feedback for the entire match. It seemed to me like one team got good feedback, and the other team got feedback based mostly on end-game stats.

 

Otherwise, I think this is an awesome idea for a weekly event. Usually I see stuff like this get put together, and then it turns into high-elo players roflstomping low-elo players and then giving "tips" at the end. This seems like an event that everyone can take something away from.

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